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What is the true Gospel message ?
(posted 08 February 2000)
If everyone was
preaching the same True Gospel Message we would all believe in the
same thing and there would be total Love and Unity among all the
Christian Churches. All other religions would even follow us. They
would see the undeniable power of God's Love working in and through
us ....
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From: Gary Cummings
Date: Sat, 2
Jul 2005
Dear South African
Friends in Christ,
"Believe on
the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved" and "All who
call upon the nam eof the Lord will be saved". This is the true
Gospel message which allows for some differences in expression and
secondary doctrines and practices, in my opinion.
God's Peace to all,
Gary Cummings
Bi-vocational minister
New Promise Church
Virginia, USA
From: malvin kivedo
Date: Sat, 13
Jan 2001
Hi
My name is Malvin
P Kivedo and I believe All Scripture is inspired by God and is
profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in
righteousness. Firstly I'd like to thank the leadership of
pechurchnet for their vision in creating this forum, whereby we can
endeavour to find the truth about God and His purpose for us as His creation.
In response to the
above mentioned topic, I'd like to contribute the following:
I'll start at
Matthew chapter 28:12-15. Here the Bible clearly states that the
elders of the Jewish community gave the soldiers money to spread the
lie that Jesus' disciples came to steal His body and that this lie is
still being spread to this day. The resurrected Jesus though, comes
in verse 18 and tells His disciples : All
authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore
and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the
Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all
that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the
end of the age.
In the gospel
according to Mark we read in chapter 16 verses 15 and 16 And
He said to them, Go into all the world and preach the gospel (good
news) to all creation. He who has believed and has been baptized
shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned.
It is clear from these verses that the source of the gospel (good
news) is Christ. It is preached by His authority and therefore we
cannot change it nor add to it or subtract from it. The apostle Paul,
by inspiration of the Holy Spirit writes the following to the
Corinthian church in 1Cor.15:1-4
Now I make known to you, brethren, the gospel (good news) which I
preached to you, which also you received, in which also you stand, by
which also you are saved, if you hold fast the word which I preached
to you, unless you believed in vain. For I delivered to you as of
first importance what I also received, that Christ died for our sins
according to the Scriptures, and that he was buried, and that He was
raised on the third day according to the Scriptures.
Note a few
things about the gospel:
It is preached; it
is received; one can stand in it (having a firm belief); it saves; it
is the death, burial and resurrection of Christ.
This is then the
true gospel (good news) to be preached throughout the world. Paul
rebukes the Galatian church with these words: I
am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by
the grace of Christ, for a different gospel (good news); which is
really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you, and
want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even though we, or an angel
from heaven, should preach to you a gospel (good news) contrary to
that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have
said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a
gospel (good news) contrary to that which you received, let him be accursed.Gal.1:6-9
It is very clear
that the apostle Paul is very serious in his plea that we not turn
away from the gospel (good news).
You may ask what
now? Well the Bible declares in 2Thessalonians 1:6-9 For
after all it is just for God to repay with affliction those who
afflict you, and to give relief to you who are afflicted and to us as
well when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with His
mighty angels in flaming fire, dealing out retribution to those who
do not know God and those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus.
In other words if we want to escape the retribution of Christ we
need to obey the gospel.
How do I do that?
Read Romans 6:3-6 (in
paraphrase form)
As Jesus was buried in the tomb, so the obedient believer is
immersed into a grave of water in order to re-enact the burial of
Jesus. Jesus was also resurrected. In like manner, the obedient
believer is resurrected from the water in order to re-enact the
resurrection of Jesus and to enter into Christ where he is in a saved
relationship with God. Before Jesus went to the tomb, He was
crucified. Before the obedient believer can be buried with Jesus in
baptism, he must first repentantly die to sin by crucifying himself
with Christ (Galatians 2:20)
Other examples of
obedience to the gospel is Acts2:41-47; 8:5-18; 8:30-39; 9:17-18; 10:34-48;
16:13; 16:25-34; 18:8; 19:5
It is also very
important to note that before one obeys the gospel, one must be
committed to remain faithful to the commands of Jesus. Read Luke
14:25-35; Matthew 10:34 ; 39.
I trust that this
will in some way help to get a better understanding of the true
gospel message and that we will allow God to speak to us through His
inspired word.
GO BOLDLY WITH GOD
www.marvinphillips.org/
From: "Vimvaan"
Date: Sun, 6
Feb 2000
If everyone
was preaching the same True Gospel Message we would all believe in
the same thing and there would be total Love and Unity among all the
Christian Churches. All other religions would even follow us. They
would see the undeniable power of God's Love working in and through us.
But what do
we have? 1,400 different Christian sects all preaching a different
message and claiming they have the True Word of God and are right.
All,
claiming to be Christians.
It is common
knowledge that nearly all horrific wars are based on religious
differences, and are still raging all over the world. We don't
believe what you believe. You are not of God but from the evil one.
They are a lot of heretics. They don't believe what the majority know
is right.
The most
popular criticism - They interpret the Bible all wrong. They are not
word based. or - Our Bible is better than theirs.
Sadly the
masses of the populous come to believe in the existence of a God
through the preaching of men. Which is what is supposed to happen,
and due to illiteracy, the lack of to knowledge to know who to
follow, or who to believe out of the 1400 divided Christians, they
believe the first thing that is put into their heads from whoever and
whatever. Mostly because of peer or parental pressure.
We all
believe what we are told, until we are told something different that
makes much more sense, or we go away and read up on the subject for
our selves and come to our own conclusions. Thousands of people are
totally disillusioned with the churches of today and what they
preach. We need to know what is wrong, there are thousands seeking
the truth.
Religious
fanatics do the most heinous of deeds to impose their own belief's on
others, even in their own religion. I heard on the news last week
that woman in Algeria were having their throats cut by members of
their own religion because they did not dress correctly. Intolerance
of other religions or beliefs causes Ethnic Cleansing. The latest
buzz word all over the world. But it is the same age old problem.
WE HAVE GOT THE
TRUE GOSPEL MESSAGE. WE ARE OF GOD.
The Gospel says
that there must be divisions and differences among us so that the
truth can be revealed and to show which of us have Gods approval, 1
Corinthians 11 v17 to 19.
PE Churchnet has
been set up to promote Harmony fellowship and above all Unity among
the believer's, so let us with Gods help try to achieve this. God
willing we will achieve this with ease to the agonizing cries of the
False Apostles and Anti-Christ's.
ALL WE NEED
IS FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THE RIGHT TO BE HEARD.
Please try and
quote exact Bible references as much as possible in italics.
Feel free to
say what ever you want, or to give your opinion on comments made, or
to support them. There are many sermons in the Bible that carry the
true gospel message. The truth of which, when spoken can change
peoples lives and bring them to God. Acts 10 v 44. Lets talk about them.
Which one's
do you feel are relevant and powerful. If you feel that there are
other reasons why the Christian religion is so divided and split up,
lets hear from you and how you think we can rectify it. Or tell us
what was that most dramatic thing you heard or happened to you to
make you believe and turn your life around.
May God
Bless all who deliberate hear with the Power of His Holy Spirit of
Love Wisdom Understanding and Knowledge.
K.I.S.S. Keep It
Simply Spiritual.
Vimvaan
From: "Vimvaan"
Date: Mon, 6
Mar 2000
THE TRUE MESSAGE
FROM : COLOSSIANS
- ex Paul
Above all else, I
think we must first acknowledge that the true message is not so easy
to grasp. Paul heard it and went of and killed hundreds of
Christians, when he did grasp it he became the greatest teacher of
all time. All the leaders of The Faith in Jerusalem also rejected
Gods plan for them. WHY ? They had the best teacher, JESUS RIGHT
THERE IN THERE CHURCH, yet they did not understand the message. Jesus
turned to them one day and said the prostitutes and tax collectors
understand GODS message for them and have entered the Kingdom of
Heaven ahead of you because they were baptised. But you refused to be
baptised and that is why you can not see GODS plan for you. Luke 7 v
29&30. Jesus also said you can not put new wine into old wine
skins and old bottle's.
NEW WINE MUST GO
INTO NEW CLEAN BODIES. NOT ONLY WASHED CLEAN OF THE OLD WAY OF LIFE
AND FORGIVEN, BUT MADE A BRAND NEW CREATION IN THE BAPTISM WATERS.
The question
we must ask ourselves is: Is this still happening today? Most
churches treat baptism as a triviality a demonstration of faith of a
previous conviction. Not the real thing which I believe it is, where
in the water we are actually washed & reborn as a son into the
kingdom of GOD, a brand new creation, like a child out of a mothers
womb. Surely our initial declaration of faith in Jesus and in GOD is
a preliminary event to the actual STEP OF FAITH. The major event and
happening takes place in the water where it says we come up into the
body of Christ, if we indeed do believe Luke 7 v 29 & 30, and
Mark 16v16 which also very clearly says that whoever believes and is
Baptised will be saved.
Yes we are ALL
saved by FAITH and FAITH ALONE.
BUT FAITH IN WHAT
& WHO?
FIRSTLY - GOD THE
FATHER FROM WHOM ALL THINGS COME AND FOR WHOM WE LIVE AND HAVE OUR
VERY BEING.
SECONDLY - JESUS,
THAT HE IS GOD'S SON AND HEIR. THROUGH WHOM ALL THINGS COME AND
THROUGH WHOM WE LIVE AND HAVE OUR LIFE. ( 1Cor 8v6 )
THIRDLY - BY FAITH
IN GOD'S WORD. ALL HIS MANY PROMISES AND CONCEPTS AND PRECEPTS FOR A
BETTER LIFE.
FOURTH - ALSO VERY
& MOST IMPORTANT - FAITH IN THE POWER OF GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT TO
HEAL US MOULD US AND SHAPE US AND SHOW US AND GIVE US ALL THINGS.
EVEN MAKE US A NEW
CREATION IN THE WATERS OF BAPTISM. THE LIST CAN GO ON AND ON.
A key verse in
Colossians could be Chapter 1v26 the mystery that has been kept
hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the saints.
v 27 To them GOD has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the
glorious riches of this mystery, Chapter 1 v 5 talks about the word
of truth, the gospel 6 that has come to us.
All over the world
this gospel is producing fruit and growing, just as it has been among
you since the day you heard it and understood GOD'S grace in all its truth.
In the last two
thousand years we have lost this secret and the world I think
everyone will agree has become ever more so horrifically evil immoral
and corrupt. We Christians are divided and fall far short of the
Unity and Love in The Spirit that we should have. The gospel should
of been round the world a dozen times by now. The Spirit of GOD comes
and goes in waves but never stays. Jerusalem still stands in ruins.
But I believe that a new wind has already began to blow that has
started to change the world and the believers in Christ, THE POWER of
GOD. and GOD himself is doing this.
In Colossians,
Chapter 2 v 8 Paul warns us "that we must see to it that no-one
takes us captive through hollow and deceptive philosophy, which
depends on human traditions and the basic principals of this world
" With GOD'S grace let me try and explain why and where I think
many have gone wrong and what I think is the true & right gospel message.
First and foremost
the Gospel I believe is mostly about understanding GOD'S grace in all
its truth. Colossians Ch 1v 6. Verse 9 goes on to say that Paul does
not stop praying for us, and asking GOD to fill us with the knowledge
of his will through all spiritual wisdom and understanding. This
wisdom and understanding we don't have and Paul is asking GOD to give
it to us. That's where the miracle of Grace comes in. In verse 10
Paul goes on to say that he prays this, so that we may live a life
worthy of the LORD and please him in every way: bearing fruit in
every good work, and growing in the knowledge of GOD.
Now this is where
I believe most go wrong. Paul is not talking about Jesus the Christ
hear in verse 10, He is talking about GOD the FATHER of Jesus. That
we must be filled with the wisdom understanding and Knowledge of GOD
and HIS will for us. Verse 6 Paul says we must understand GOD'S grace
in all its truth. He is not talking about Jesus.
Verse 11- Lets go
on. "being strengthened with all power according to HIS (that is
GOD ) glorious might so that we might have great endurance and
patience, and joyfully 12 give thanks to the Father, ( that is God
not Jesus ) who has qualified us to share in the inheritance of the
saints in the kingdom of light. 13 For HE (GOD) has rescued us from
the dominion of darkness (not Jesus ) and brought us into the kingdom
of the Son HE loves, (Jesus) 14 in whom we have redemption, the
forgiveness of sins. (GOD is the one who clearly rescued us but he
did it through his Son Jesus )
Chapter 2 v 13
says the same " When we were dead in our sins, GOD made us alive
with Christ. He (GOD) forgave us all our sins, He took it away,
nailing it to the cross. 15 he disarmed the powers and authorities,
he (GOD) made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the
cross. 2v9 says that just as " in Christ the fullness of the
Deity lives in bodily form" 2v10 says that we also " have
been given fullness in Christ". 2v11 "in him we were also
circumcised in the putting of the sinful nature. 12 having been
buried with him in baptism and raised with him through our FAITH in
THE POWER of GOD" Who raised Him from the dead. as we have
already said 2v13 "GOD made us alive with Christ He (GOD)
forgave us all our sins. AND MADE US ALIVE WITH CHRIST
( THIS IS THE
MYSTERY THAT WAS HIDDEN FOR AGES )
BUT IS NOT THE
WHOLE MESSAGE - ITS HALF THE STORY.
The point I am
trying to make is that it is GOD that so loved all of us that he gave
up his one and only son to die on the cross for us?. Was it not God
who lay all our sins and iniquities on his Son? and made him suffer
for us at a price we could never re-pay?. Was it God that raised
Jesus from the grave when he was dead? for surely he did really die
for us, did he not ? or was he not really dead and the truth is that
his friends rescued him as the Jews that crucified him said all along
? I think every Christian will agree that Jesus did die and His
Father, GOD did raise him from the dead. 3v16 then makes a lot of
sense " Let the word of Christ dwell in us richly as we teach
and admonish one another with all wisdom as we sing psalms, hymns and
spiritual songs with gratitude in our hearts to GOD 17 And what ever
we do whether in word or deed do it all in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ
( THIS IS THE
PUNCH LINE THAT EVERY-ONE SEEMS TO MISS )
GIVING THANKS TO
GOD THE FATHER THROUGH HIM. (V17)
The true gospel
message has got to be about GOD as well as Jesus, the two go together
like a lamp and oil, you can not have the LIGHT if you don't have
both the lamp and the oil. There are 5 virgins that will confirm
this. Plus Revelations 21v23&24. We have got to sing songs to GOD
and about GOD The Father as well as Jesus. We must thank GOD for
giving us HIS Son for giving us HIS Holy SPIRIT the same Spirit that
HE so powerfully worked in Jesus when he was with us. The same Spirit
that dwells in us. The same Spirit that God used to raise Jesus from
the dead. Was it not Jesus who said to the lady at the well, The
Father is looking for Spiritual worshipers to worship him in Spirit
and in Truth?. Was it not Moses and Jesus that said that the most
important commandment of all is to worship GOD?. Jesus did not say
the most important one is to worship me. Jesus prayed to GOD, did he
not ? and did he not tell us to pray to OUR FATHER who is in Heaven?.
FOR HALLOWED IS HIS NAME.
My new Millennium
prayer & message is that the whole world will soon be filled with
the Glory of GOD. That glory, will be the singing and praises of
those who Know HIM and LOVE HIM. Did Jesus not say "If you
really knew me, you would know my Father also" "If you hear
my voice you will hear my Fathers voice also. " Did Jesus not
say in John 17v25&26 FATHER THE WORLD DOES NOT KNOW YOU. But I
know you and they Know that you have sent me. I have made you known
to them and I will continue to make you known so that the Love You
have for me may be in them also.
DON'T YOU ALSO
WANT THE LOVE THAT WAS IN JESUS THE POWER OF GOD'S HOLY SPIRIT ?
WILL YOU BE AMONG
THOSE WHO ARE ALREADY SINGING THE PRAISES OF GOD AND HIS SON.
Yes the true
gospel message for me is that we must not only believe in Jesus
(which is what everyone is doing wrong ) but that even more important
we must as the scripture tells us BELIEVE ALSO IN THE ONE WHO SENT
HIM, THE GOD AND FATHER OF JESUS. John 3v16 to 21
It is time we
practice Romans 15 v 5 May the GOD who gives endurance and
encouragement give us a spirit of unity among ourselves as we follow
Christ Jesus so that with one heart and mouth we may glorify the GOD
and Father of Our Lord Jesus Christ.
Tell me honestly
have you ever even heard a sermon lately or even a song about GOD THE
FATHER. There are plenty but no one ever sings them. In my church we
had over 120 songs for the overhead , only 3 of them use to be
directly and specifically about God. What is it like in your Church?.
May GOD bless all
who read this with HIS SPIRIT of wisdom and revelation.
K.I.S.S. Keep It
Simply Spiritual.
Vimvaan |
